14:32 < Jaffa> 1) Updates on non-completed actions from July/anything to add
about completion
14:32 < Jaffa> http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/July_09
14:32 < danielwilms> didn't get the gforge integration completely ready
14:33 < Jaffa> qgil: 8.11-01 should be 100%, correct? Anything to add to the
notes there? Anything carrying over/incomplete?
14:33 < danielwilms> but it is on a good way
14:33 < Jaffa> danielwilms: We'll go down the list in order, I think.
14:33 < timsamoff> Henri won't be here today, correct?
14:33 < Jaffa> timsamoff: correct.
14:33 < qgil> Jaffa: no
14:34 < qgil> and basically nthing to add to whatever I have reported already
:)
14:34 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Ok. I have a reques for him (or someone) at the end
of the meeting.
14:34 < Jaffa> qgil: thanks
14:34 < sopi> timsamoff: i am here to take your requests
14:34 < Jaffa> andre__: 9.02-01 and 9.04-05: two musts
14:34 < timsamoff> sopi: Thanks. :)
14:34 < Jaffa> 90% and 80% respectively.
14:34 < andre__> Thanks to sopi we have a Bugzilla 3.4 test installation online.
14:34 < andre__> 9.02-01: Patches are analyzed (luckily all important stuff is
in form of debian dpatch files)
14:35 < andre__> I consider 9.02-01 as done (plus I want better and clearer
subtasks to be honest).
14:35 < andre__> hence i propose MUST for next month: Get "Nokia patches" part
cleanly into Bugzilla 3.4 test installation and drop as many
deltas as possible
14:35 < andre__> COULD: Get Template/CSS stuff for Bugzilla 3.4 into good
shape. This is basically 9.04-05 which is MUST currently, I
know, but I should start realizing that BAU stuff still takes
more time than I expected. :-/
14:36 < andre__> so i propose to close the first one as DONE and start a new
(better defined) subtask
14:36 < sopi> andre__: put my name to the first "MUST" task. I will make sure
the Nokia patchset is sorted out. We can actually do that
together..
14:36 < sopi> andre__: and you can focus on the CSS part.
14:37 < andre__> oh, okay. thanks a lot!
14:37 < sopi> andre__: you are welcome!
14:37 < Jaffa> andre__: OK, so 9.02-01 is being closed. And 9.04-05 being
dropped in priority to COULD for next sprint?
14:37 < andre__> let's say SHOULD as sopi helps
14:37 * Jaffa reminds everyone that election & summit will take people's time;
but presumably not you, andre__
14:38 < Jaffa> andre__: OK, cool.
14:38 < Jaffa> andre__: anything else to add on those?
14:38 < Jaffa> jeremiah: 9.06-03 is done. Anything to add?
14:38 < andre__> Well, kudos to sopi mostly, big help :)
14:38 < jeremiah> Not really - must of the issues are fairly common
14:39 < jeremiah> So I think they should be fairly easy to solve.
14:39 < jeremiah> Nothing has popped up that seems to be a blocker to fremantle.
14:39 < Jaffa> jeremiah: Cool. How's it shaping up?
14:39 < Jaffa> (Fremantle Extras)?
14:39 < jeremiah> I think it is going well - I have a couple things to do that
you and X-Fade spotted.
14:40 < jeremiah> But I am pretty impressed with X-Fade's ideas and
implementation
14:40 < Jaffa> Cool. Which takes us on to X-Fade's 9.06-05
14:40 < jeremiah> Indeed. :)
14:40 < X-Fade> Can I propose maemian as a must for jeremiah?
14:41 < jeremiah> You can, but maemian is really, really big.
14:41 < Jaffa> Is that the blocker?
14:41 < jeremiah> The "frontend" is 2000 lines of code
14:41 < X-Fade> jeremiah: No it shoud not be big. It should just work for the
simplest of tests.
14:41 < X-Fade> jeremiah: And then improve on it later.
14:41 < X-Fade> jeremiah: The infra should be ready for testing asap.
14:42 < jeremiah> X-Fade: Okay, but part of the point of maemian is to port
lintian and merge that with Nokia's lintian
14:42 < jeremiah> That is a large code base
14:42 < X-Fade> jeremiah: So we at least know we have all the pieces of the
puzzle in place somehow.
14:42 < Jaffa> X-Fade: So your suggestion is the infrastructure for a single,
simple test (e.g. package names don't contain capital letters);
rather than the definitive maemian?
14:42 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Yeah, or check for categories or whatever.
14:42 < jeremiah> X-Fade: I have minimae for that.
14:43 < X-Fade> Jaffa: And then add cases when there is more time.
14:43 * Jaffa nods
14:43 < X-Fade> Because that task is becoming a monster that will never finish
otherwise.
14:43 < X-Fade> Small tasks ;)
14:43 < Jaffa> X-Fade: yup.
14:43 < jeremiah> Okay. I have a small script that works on .dsc files now
14:43 < Jaffa> jeremiah: Does that sound reasonable?
14:43 < jeremiah> Jaffa: Yes, very.
14:43 < Jaffa> Cool.
14:44 < jeremiah> May I just say;
14:44 < Jaffa> X-Fade: what about the other blockers for the promotion
interface?
14:44 < X-Fade> About my task. It is shaping up, there are a few bugs left
which I want to fix this week.
14:44 < jeremiah> That the small script is called minimae (pronounced mini-me)
and the big one is maemian
14:44 < X-Fade> The only thing blocking promotion is a but in reptrol atm, but
I think Jeremiah is working on that now.
14:44 < jeremiah> minimae is the one we'll turn into a must for me.
14:44 < Jaffa> jeremiah: Yup. Worth clarifying.
14:45 < jeremiah> X-Fade: It's not a bug so much as I am not reading lib dirs
correctly and pushing all the right binaries.
14:45 < jeremiah> But I know what I have to do
14:45 < jeremiah> and it is mostly done
14:45 < Jaffa> jeremiah: Is that reptrol issue too small for a task/likely to
be completed soon.
14:45 < Jaffa> ?
14:45 < X-Fade> I consider it a bug not a task.
14:45 < jeremiah> No - I have mostly fixed it.
14:45 < Jaffa> jeremiah: Cool.
14:46 < X-Fade> But other than that, we should/could start testing
extras-testing soon.
14:46 < Jaffa> X-Fade: What's the audience for the packages UI? Is it worth
trying to find someone to look at compartmentalising the
UI/CSSifying it a bit. The grey background of maemo.org blurs
everything together a bit for me.
14:46 < Jaffa> X-Fade: Cool
14:47 < Jaffa> X-Fade: Does your MUST task include documentation/communication?
14:47 < X-Fade> Jaffa: developers, maintainers and community testers.
14:47 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Well no, it would be nice if somebody else could take
that on.
14:47 < X-Fade> Jaffa: I can give explanations, but there is still a lot of
infra that needs to be fixed behind the scenes.
14:48 < Jaffa> X-Fade: OK, I'll take that on as a SHOULD.
14:48 < X-Fade> Thanks.
14:48 < X-Fade> And yeah, packages could use some CSS love>
14:48 < Jaffa> 9.06-05 staying open then, for the next sprint - still as a
MUST; for completion in the next sprint?
14:48 < jeremiah> Yeah, there is a lot of data on those pages.
14:48 < X-Fade> But I'm concentrating on functionality for now.
14:49 < Jaffa> X-Fade: I'll take an action to ask on tmo/poke
timsamoff/glaubert/...
14:49 < X-Fade> Yeah, should finish.
14:49 < Jaffa> X-Fade: s/should/must/ ;-)
14:49 < X-Fade> ehm yeah.
14:49 < Jaffa> heh.
14:49 < Jaffa> OK, moving on to 9.06-07: karma for applications. A MUST at 25%.
14:49 < Jaffa> Been kicking around for a while this one.
14:50 < X-Fade> JimiDini: ?
14:50 < JimiDini> We had technical problems with this one, and bergie finally
fixed problem with cron-scripts which blocked this
14:50 < JimiDini> problem was fixed on 29-th and we get data since then. There
will be enough data for experiments in days from now
14:51 < sopi> JimiDini: we can not let this slip for an other month.
14:52 < sopi> JimiDini: any chance to get it done in 2 weeks max?
14:52 < JimiDini> Also, I have access to maemo.org machine since today, so I
will be able to solve similiar issues by myself now.
14:52 < JimiDini> sopi: definitely
14:52 < sopi> JimiDini: so in the September meeting we can already talk about
the results, not about problems..
14:53 < Jaffa> JimiDini: So, the task for this sprint is a MUST of getting
data; coming up with some proposals; getting consensus on those
proposals on maemo-(community/developers)?
14:54 < Jaffa> sopi: I like that; "talk about results, not about problems" -
should be the sprint meeting motto ;-)
14:55 < JimiDini> Jaffa: I will be able to come with proposals and I will be
able to implement them. I can't answer for communitie's speed
in getting consensus, but I will do my best to keep the
process of "hunting for consensus" going ;)
14:55 < Jaffa> JimiDini: OK, let's say "communicate proposals and push for
consensus" ;-)
14:55 * Jaffa 'll help facilitate if needed
14:55 < JimiDini> yes
14:55 < JimiDini> thanks :)
14:55 < sopi> JimiDini: if you need Bergie's assistance then you must catch him
during this week. He will be away after that.
14:55 < Jaffa> No, thank you :)
14:56 < Jaffa> Anything else on 9.06-07 karma for apps' formula?
14:56 < JimiDini> sopi: now that I have access, I will be able to deal with it
myself
14:56 < JimiDini> Jaffa: nope
14:57 < Jaffa> If not, 9.06-06 is jeremiah with another 40 packages... as a
"must" (odd, I thought it was a should, but perhaps I'm
remembering the wrong meeting)
14:58 < jeremiah> I thought it was a should too.
14:58 < jeremiah> Which is why I hadn't been focusing on it.
14:58 < jeremiah> :-/
14:58 < Jaffa> Let's assume it's an admin error and should be a SHOULD (unless
X-Fade says different)
14:59 < X-Fade> I don't think it matters much, we've seen a lot of apps coming
to Fremantle.
14:59 < Jaffa> True.
14:59 < X-Fade> And blindly porting them over is starting to hurt us.
14:59 < jeremiah> I think X-Fade wants maemian checks more.
14:59 < jeremiah> I can port some via maemian testing as well.
14:59 < X-Fade> I already regret bringing some old libs over myself.
14:59 < Jaffa> jeremiah: OK, so let's drop 9.06-06 and focus on minimae and
maemian
14:59 < Jaffa> ?
14:59 < jeremiah> Jaffa: Cool.
14:59 < jeremiah> Sounds good to me.
15:00 < X-Fade> We should do a cleanup run where we remove libs that are older
than the SDK versions.
15:00 < jeremiah> X-Fade: I would like a clear idea of what type of checks you
want so that I can fulfill expectations.
15:00 < jeremiah> Don't have to tell me now
15:00 < jeremiah> But we should discuss that.
15:00 < X-Fade> jeremiah: Let's create a list after this meeting and add them
to the wiki page.
15:00 < jeremiah> Cool.
15:00 < Jaffa> Cool.
15:01 < Jaffa> Moving on to 9.06-10: dneary MUST 0% "library.gnome.org use debs
rather than tgzs"?
15:01 < dneary> Hi
15:01 < dneary> Yes, no progress to report
15:01 < dneary> As I said in email yesterday
15:02 < dneary> And no progress expected in August
15:02 < Jaffa> So it should be dropped to the backlog
15:02 < Jaffa> ?
15:02 < dneary> I'm going on holiday tomorrow evening, and expect to be
inundated with Maemo Summit & council election stuff on my
return
15:02 < dneary> If that's what the sprint rules say
15:03 < dneary> I'm still unclear on the process we're supposed to be
following, sorry :)
15:03 < Jaffa> dneary: Well, it certainly can't stay a MUST - and a SHOULD or
COULD when it's not going to be worked on is misleading as well
:)
15:03 < dneary> Okay then
15:04 < Jaffa> dneary: We'll get on to the new tasks shortly.
15:04 < Jaffa> danielwilms: SSO? 9.07-01?
15:04 < danielwilms> almost there
15:04 < danielwilms> single sign out does not work yet
15:05 < Jaffa> danielwilms: Staying as a SHOULD or going up to MUST?
15:05 < danielwilms> must
15:05 < dneary> Sorry - stepping to the toilet for a sec.
15:05 < Jaffa> OK, cool.
15:05 < Jaffa> Stskeeps: 9.06-09 - Vendor Hardware Repos: decide subtasks. Says
0%, accurate?
15:06 < Stskeeps> accurate
15:06 * Jaffa is not planning on going through the coulds in detail. So if
anyone has anything to add on them, just shout.
15:06 < Jaffa> Stskeeps: Staying in as a SHOULD?
15:06 < Stskeeps> yep, i hope to get more in this month :)
15:06 < Jaffa> Cool.
15:07 < Jaffa> Anything on any COULDs from anyone?
15:07 < jeremiah> I have no could stuff.
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15:07 < Andy80> hi
15:07 < Jaffa> hi Andy80
15:08 < VDVsx> jeremiah, yes, you have :)
15:08 < dneary> back
15:08 < jeremiah> VDVsx: Sorry, I meant to say I have nothing to add. ;)
15:08 < Jaffa> OK, moving on to new tasks then. We've got some new ones above,
and I imagine - as dneary said - some people focusing on summit
and/or election taking up some time.
15:09 < VDVsx> jeremiah, :)
15:09 < X-Fade> Jaffa: I like to propose discussion importing for Karma. And
fix all open karma issues for the Nemein guys.
15:09 < X-Fade> As we need the karma for summit sponsor and elections.
15:10 < qgil> +1
15:11 < Jaffa> X-Fade: Having a discussion now? Or a task about imprting
"discussion karma"?
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15:11 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Re-import discussions so Karma is fixed.
15:11 < Jaffa> Ah, OK.
15:12 < sopi> X-Fade: "discussion karma" MUST be implemented in next Sprint
15:12 < Jaffa> Who owns those tasks?
15:12 < sopi> There is a bug report on that, but we seemed to forget about the
bugs.
15:12 < Jaffa> And is "fix all open karma issues" realistic (one for the Nemein
guys to answer)?
15:12 < sopi> Jaffa: put my name to it.
15:12 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Well, I don't know of many open issues.
15:13 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Other than the mail import one.
15:13 < dneary> How off is the mail import one?
15:13 < sopi> Jaffa: I will find help, JimiDini perhaps will give me a hand
after the "application karma" is done.
15:13 < dneary> Is there anyone who would otherwise be elligible to be a
candidate (for example) who isn't because of this bug?
15:13 < X-Fade> dneary: 50% orso?
15:14 < Jaffa> sopi: OK, so your going to have: MUST "re-import discussion
karma" and MUST "fix any other karma issues"?
15:14 < JimiDini> sopi: I will do my best, though I think I have another "must"
task this spring (integration of midgard at maemo.org with
SSO)
15:14 < JimiDini> s/spring/sprint/
15:14 < sopi> Jaffa: yes, correct.
15:14 < X-Fade> dneary: lardman is missing about 130 karma because of this, for
example.
15:14 < sopi> JimiDini: ok, i will then outsource it to someone else. don't
worry. :)
15:15 < Jaffa> Someone else was missing a lot too (although details escape me)
15:16 < X-Fade> But anyway, that can be fixed with a re-import which takes
quite some time to run. But it should not be that much work.
15:16 < danielwilms> JimiDini and we will discuss the API of the user-import
sync?? then I can start integrating this
15:16 < Jaffa> dneary: I imagine your non-holiday time being basically BAU
(where 'BAU' includes the elections & the content committee atm)
15:16 < sopi> X-Fade: you will be my man. I will talk to you and then will do
the re-import by myself.
15:16 < dneary> BAU?
15:17 < dneary> Business as usual?
15:17 < zerojay> Sorry to interupt, but what exactly is discussion karma
affected by? Just posting on tmo or...?
15:17 < dneary> Yes, more or less
15:17 < JimiDini> danielwilms: a starter:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Task:Single_sign-on/UserManagement-API
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15:17 < dneary> Although neither of those are really BAU :)
15:17 < X-Fade> zerojay: no, mailinglists.
15:17 < danielwilms> JimiDini great!
15:17 < Jaffa> dneary: Business-as-Usual. i.e. too odd/general/specific to have
a task
15:17 < dneary> I'm also going to make sure that the community edits in the HIG
get integrated upstream
15:17 < Jaffa> dneary: Ah, yes. That sounds like a task. SHOULD?
15:18 < timsamoff> dneary: And remain synced with future edits. ;)
15:18 < dneary> Jaffa: It's the remaining 10% on the task "Proofread the HIG"
15:18 < dneary> which is already there
15:18 < timsamoff> Jaffa: 2% now.
15:18 < dneary> timsamoff: This will be serving as a test-case of keeping docs
in sync
15:18 < Jaffa> dneary: Cool. Kept at COULD or moved up?
15:18 < dneary> I have some doubts
15:18 < dneary> Move to SHOULD
15:18 < Jaffa> dneary: OK, cool.
15:19 < Andy80> question: are commits to SVN in any of the projects in the
Garage, currently counted for karma?
15:19 < dneary> timsamoff: Also, I assume you have seen
http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide ?
15:19 < timsamoff> dneary: Yes.
15:20 < X-Fade> Andy80: no
15:20 < X-Fade> Andy80: Put your app in extras and in Downloads and you get
karma from that.
15:20 * Jaffa is going to make a MUST task for himself of identifying and/or
communicating to tmo users to ensure they are aware of voting.
There's an issue about account creation dates; but if someone has a
talk.maemo.org account for 3 years and a maemo.org account for 2
weeks; I think they're included in both the letter and spirit of the
"3 month rule"
15:21 < sopi> Andy80: measuring commits is pretty nicely done by ohloh. wonder
if we could import data from there somehow...
15:21 < danielwilms> dneary there was a request that we change the
breadcrumbs...skip the "documentation"...but is this for
anybody else a problem?!?...or is it ok to leave it like
this and take the documentation page as an overview for
further releases??
15:21 < X-Fade> Jaffa: Maybe we should not be too strict about it this time.
Next time we will have merged user bases.
15:22 < dneary> danielwilms: I don't mind
15:22 < Jaffa> X-Fade: indeed. The practical details need to be worked out.
Hopefully at some point account merging will be addressed (the
current situation is probably long term untenable)
15:22 < dneary> danielwilms: The important thing is that it be available
15:22 < X-Fade> Jaffa: With SSO will come merging, so..
15:22 < dneary> The question is, is there anything else on the Documentation
page? Because it does seem redundant
15:22 < X-Fade> dneary: There might be coming more.
15:22 < danielwilms> dneary: it will come
15:23 < Andy80> X-Fade: counting Karma could make people move their projects to
Garage, insted of developing them outside the garage and then
publishing in Downloads... what do you think about?
15:23 < dneary> OK
15:23 < X-Fade> Andy80: I woudn't care where it was developed? As long as the
app was good and source available, hence Extras ;)
15:24 < X-Fade> Andy80: Simply commit 1000 commits to gain karma is not doing
anybody a favor.
15:24 < Andy80> X-Fade: I don't mean it
15:24 < JimiDini> X-Fade: well, as long as the project is developed at garage
it is acting as community-generator for maemo.org
15:24 < Andy80> X-Fade: I mean that if a project is present in the garage, is
something more like a "community developed" project
15:24 < sopi> Guys, shall we take this "svn commits to karma" discussion
offline?
15:25 < X-Fade> JimiDini: Yeah, but we see projects opened for simple
recompiles now. That doesn't help.
15:25 < X-Fade> sopi: Agreed.
15:25 < qgil> Proposing for me: MUST Summit budget v0.99 - SHOULD: Draft
quality guidelines to promote apps from extras-testing to extras
- COULD: 9.06-14 Plan for the OMAP2 acceleration drivers
(((staying as COULD since they don't depend on me)))
15:26 < Jaffa> qgil: Cool. Will the draft quality guidelines feed into future
maemian checks (where possible), or is it intended to be the
more tester-focused stuff which we can't automatically check for?
15:27 < qgil> Jaffa: those guidelines are for humans
15:27 < jeremiah> Yeah, I will try to pick up that stuff and put it in maemian
15:27 < dneary> qgil: Some more MUSTs without names - I'd be interested in your
feedback
15:27 < qgil> any guideline that can be automated should be applied already in
the jump from devel to testing
15:27 < jeremiah> That which is machine-able.
15:27 < dneary> Approve or reject outstanding travel funding requests
15:27 < Jaffa> X-Fade: indeed, which is what mud's good for :)
15:27 < dneary> Depends on: finalise travel funding committee & process
15:28 < qgil> travel requests will be BAU I'm afraid until the very last week
15:28 < Jaffa> dneary: This being sponsorship for the summit for non-paid
contributors?
15:28 < dneary> (Jaffa's proposal to have guidelines + subjective judgement is
good, the thing they're missing is probably the ball-park)
15:28 < dneary> Jaffa: Yup
15:28 < qgil> dneary: I already sent to the council today a first budget they
can count on for travel expenses (and marketing)
15:28 < dneary> Also, we probably need an accommodation option to house funded
attendees so that we know how much accommodation will cost
15:28 < X-Fade> Maye a summit promotion task?
15:28 < Jaffa> dneary: Depends on Quim's budget, which is progressing. From
what I've seen today, I'm guessing around the same number (maybe
a dozen more)
15:28 < dneary> qgil: Cool
15:29 < qgil> maybe more budget will be available when we know more about other
expenses
15:29 < dneary> X-Fade: Indeed, a Summit promotion task is also useful
15:29 * Jaffa wonders which other council members are here he can delegate
some stuff to...
15:29 < Jaffa> Hmm. Just me or timsamoff
15:30 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Lay it on me... Maybe. :p
15:30 < Jaffa> Another MUST for me: drive the election process (although dneary
does lots of work)
15:30 < Jaffa> timsamoff: Acting as task owner for the summit council
responsibilities (I'll help) would be useful. Handling qgil's
emails etc.
15:31 < timsamoff> qgil: After merchandise "items" are decided, who will take
care of finding a vendor/printing/etc?
15:31 < dneary> Jaffa: Bear in mind (as with content & other summit tasks)
holidays
15:31 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Ok. Will do.
15:31 < Andy80> someone proposed a good thing few days ago in talk.maemo.org:
Nokia or the Council should reserve rooms in Hotels as soon as
possible, to try to get a big discount
15:31 < qgil> timsamoff: I think the community can do better and cooler
merchandising than Nokia in community mode...
15:31 < timsamoff> qgil: Find someone in Summit location? (Last time everything
was done in Germany, right?)
15:32 < qgil> Andy80: I think that finding the right accommodation ioptions is
a good task for our dearest council member in Amsterdam
15:32 < Jaffa> dneary: Indeed.
15:32 < X-Fade> Heh ;)
15:32 < Andy80> qgil: yes, good point.
15:32 < qgil> timsamoff: are you talking about finding accommodation or
merchandising?
15:32 < timsamoff> Merchandise. Sorry -- two conversations.
15:33 < Jaffa> qgil: I'll talk to keesj about finding accomodation (distilling
stuff like dneary's done on tmo)
15:33 < qgil> merchandising has two parts: design (can be done anywhere) and
then production (the easiest part when you have the money, good
to have a local to check things etc)
15:33 < timsamoff> qgil: Ok.
15:34 < qgil> I think keesj could also be the one for merchandising, unless he
finds a good delegate
15:34 < Jaffa> We'll have a discussion, but it sounds like Nokia wants the
community (and so, if not offloaded by us or we get a volunteer,
the council)
15:34 < qgil> for the production, the design shouldn't be a problem in a
community able to come up with 67 mascots in a weekend
15:35 < timsamoff> qgil: I'll take on organizing design on tmo -- thread
already strated by you (IIRC). Then talk with Kees.
15:35 < Jaffa> qgil: True. Does Nokia want any veto on trademark usage?
15:35 < Jaffa> timsamoff: Cool
15:35 < dneary> qgil: Do we have a supplier in AMS?
15:35 < qgil> Jaffa: maemo.org logo and then it's about looking at the final
work, but I don't foresee any problems within "common sense"
15:36 < Jaffa> qgil: /me nods
15:36 < dneary> qgil: For production, I mean
15:36 < qgil> dneary: there are millions of shirts sold in Amsterdam, but I
don't know more than that - westergas knows for sure
15:36 < dneary> I might get a couple of ideas
15:37 < timsamoff> qgil & dneary: I'll speak with Kees about getting a list. I
can email Westergas as well.
15:37 < Jaffa> Cool. So that's election & summit tasks progressing. Karma bugs.
Extras and other bits and bobs. Anyone want to push anything
else this sprint? It feels like we're nearly at capacity
15:38 * timsamoff has a request for sopi.
15:38 < sopi> timsamoff: yes
15:38 < timsamoff> For the Sprint page Qaiku feeds....
15:38 < timsamoff> It's currently in a <ul>.
15:38 < VDVsx> Jaffa, don't forget a summit promotion/buzz task
15:38 < timsamoff> Could we get an output of date and username before post?
15:39 < VDVsx> I can help if needed
15:39 < timsamoff> Something more like an IRC output?
15:39 < Jaffa> VDVsx: OK, cool.
15:39 < VDVsx> also first banner by wazd:
http://valeriovalerio.org/images/maemo_summit_banner1.png
15:39 < X-Fade> timsamoff: http://www.qaiku.com/channels/show/maemork/ ?
15:39 < sopi> timsamoff: should be doable.
15:39 < Jaffa> timsamoff: It comes from the Atom feed, reprocessed via Yahoo!
Pipes (by me) to turn it into RSS and then embedded into
MediaWiki using the <rss /> extension
15:40 < dneary> Jaffa: Are you going to announce the election date?
15:40 < timsamoff> sopi: Cool. We don't need avatars or any crazy styling. Just
a little more info.
15:40 < dneary> Jaffa: I'd like to be able to plan for candidate lists and the
like
15:40 < Jaffa> dneary: Yes.
15:40 < timsamoff> sopi: would you be comfortable adding this as a COULD?
15:40 < Jaffa> timsamoff: Do you want a separate summit "buzz" task owned by
VDVsx, with yours being more adminey?
15:41 < timsamoff> Sure. VDVsx has been doing an amazing job already! :)
15:41 < sopi> timsamoff: I will probably talk to Jaffa and see how this is done
now. I can get it as a COULD, yes.
15:41 < dneary> Jaffa: Great
15:41 < timsamoff> sopi: Thanks.
15:41 < Jaffa> VDVsx: Summit buzz task: MUST. Probably one of "create buzz" or
"sort out promotion plan" ;-)
15:41 < Jaffa> sopi: sounds like a plan
15:41 < dneary> timsamoff: Just curious, what buzzy stuff have we done so far?
15:42 < Jaffa> dneary: I'll talk with you a bit more out-of-band
15:42 < timsamoff> VDVsx has been Tweeting and posting on tmo.
15:42 < timsamoff> Blog posts too?
15:42 < dneary> OK
15:42 < timsamoff> http://twitter.com/#search?q=%23maesum
15:43 < timsamoff> (It'd be cool to have a Twitter live feed somewhere on m.o
similar to the Qaiku feed!) ;)
15:43 < VDVsx> yup,please use Tim's hash tag for the summit twits
15:43 < VDVsx> #maesum :)
15:43 < Jaffa> timsamoff: Sticking an RSS feed of #maesum on the summit page is
trivial.
15:43 < Jaffa> AOB?
15:43 < timsamoff> Could we add it as a SHOULD then?
15:44 < Jaffa> timsamoff: I'll do it this afternoon ;-p
15:44 < Jaffa> i.e. before I've written up the minutes
15:44 < qgil> er... are we done with the strict meeting?
15:44 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Awesome!
15:46 < Jaffa> timsamoff: BTW:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo_Summit_2009#Latest_News :-)
15:46 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Well, dang. ;)
15:46 < VDVsx> lol
15:47 < Jaffa> Someone more than welcome to restyle the page to be a more bit
front pagey.
15:47 < Jaffa> Anyway, thanks all. That seems to be it, as everyone's gone
quiet.
15:47 < Jaffa> I'll write these up on the wiki and send out a notice to
maemo-community, and anyone committed to a task, when I've done
it.
15:47 < timsamoff> Jaffa: Thank you!
15:47 < sopi> Thanks Jaffa and thanks to all!
15:47 < JimiDini> Jaffa: did my task about integrating maemo.org with SSO get
into the list? :)
15:47 < VDVsx> qgil, btw, nokia will do some marketing/promotion of to summit
also ?
15:48 < Jaffa> JimiDini: It did. Well, I saw it go past, and I go through the
minutes again with a fine tooth comb :)
15:48 < danielwilms> ok...bye bye
15:48 < JimiDini> great
5:48 < JimiDini> thanks all. bye :)
15:48 < sopi> bye!
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15:49 < andre__> bye
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15:49 < qgil> VDVsx: yes, but now they are concentrating promoting Nokia World
;)
15:50 < X-Fade> qgil: Ah that small event, we should be much larger ;)
15:50 < VDVsx> lol
15:50 < Jaffa> And more exciting!
15:51 < timsamoff> ;D
15:51 < dneary> Thanks all! Bye.
15:52 < qgil> more seriously, VDVsx Nokia will help contacting and inviting
some on-topic media, and also through the Maemo channel of
company partners, other units...
15:52 < qgil> they are interested in Fremantle, but also in Harmattan
15:52 < jeremiah> Cool.
15:53 < jeremiah> People from Intel for example?
15:53 < dneary> jeremiah: I've been thinking of that for a community keynote
15:54 < jeremiah> I think there is a lot of synergy between us and Moblin.
15:54 < VDVsx> oh, if someone has ideas for a good keynote, please shot
15:54 < VDVsx> dneary, we can also ask in tmo
15:56 < timsamoff> Bye!
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15:58 < dneary> VDVsx: We don't have a huge amount of time if we want to invite
someone good
15:58 < dneary> VDVsx: And you can lose a lot of time brainstorming a list of
great speakers who aren't available
15:59 < dneary> The added advantage of AMS is that there are some really great
projects not far from us
15:59 < VDVsx> dneary, true
16:01 < qgil> alright, bye!
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